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Periodic grey smoke and oil consumption

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My 2011 VW Transporter 2.0 BiTDi (twin turbo diesel, 180 hp) has run 285,000 km. Last year it spewed a lot of grey smoke every other day or so for a couple of weeks and consumed a lot of oil. Then it went away. This year, some 15,000 km later, the grey smoke has returned and with it, the heavy oil consumption. During its most smoky periods, it consumes about 1.5 liters (near same as quarts) over a 750 km (460 mile) distance. However, then it may run twice the distance with no oil consumption or smoke. The times when it smokes seem to increase in frequency, though.

When it smokes, heavy acceleration will make it smoke a lot more (James Bond would envy the cover). However, when it does not smoke, heavy acceleration does not produce any smoke whatsoever.

I recently purchased a Mobilscan device and let it read the ECU while driving. It has one error message that comes up: “P2196 system too fet at high load 2” (I assume it should be “too fat”, i.e. to rich fuel-air mixture).

Another error code sometimes also shows up, P0299 turbo pressure “A” too low. It then also seems to go into limp mode. This usually happens when going uphill at moderate or high throttle. (Turbo pressure readings are typically from 1.0-2.6 bars, but once in a while it seems to read 0.9).

Finally, the diesel particle filter light sometimes comes on, also typically when going uphill at moderate or high throttle.

When the car smokes, it often seems like the O2 sensor reads zero, while the Lambda sensor reads around 0.3-0.5, whereas their usual readings/averages are around 300 mV for O2 and 1.4 (lambda).

Aside from this, the engine seems to run just fine. There is no water in the oil, nor does it consume water (i.e. seems like the head gasket is ok). Valve noise seems normal. No smoke of any kind upon start-up or when cold. (Note: A few months ago it was running rough and was diagnosed by VW as having a faulty diesel pressure regulator. They wanted 1,200 Euros to replace it, so I did it myself. While waiting for the new part, it started running smoothly again – perhaps because I had used a diesel additive to clean up the system. I still replaced the regulator.)

So far, I have taken off the rubber hose on the intake side of the first turbo and the blades are dry and the turbo spins fine, no slack. The other turbo I cannot inspect. I have taken off the pipe into the EGR-valve and it too looks ok (no build-up of particles). I plan to check are the intercooler (for cracks). The temperature of the intake air is typically warmer than the outside temperature, which strikes me as odd when it has an intercooler.

An employee at VW parts department believed it is the turbo leaking oil into the exhaust. Replacing it is extremely expensive (5 - 6.000 euros). I have a schedule for a proper diagnosis by VW (on August 8th), unless I can figure it out myself in the mean time. Adivce is welcome.
 
#2 ·
Update1:

A local VW dealer has now diagnosed the car and they are unsure, but think that the low pressure turbo is periodically "disengaging" and when this happens, oil passes by the seals and into the exhaust. Then the diesel particle filter (DPF) fills up with oil which is burnt off periodically during regeneration giving the white/greyish smoke. They have not encountered such a periodic fault before, though, so they cannot guarantee that replacing the turbo will fix it (a huge expense). They did not think that it would hurt the engine to keep driving, though the DPF probably would kick the bucket after some time since it cannot rid itself of the carbon deposits from all the oil.


I have noticed that the white smoke most often comes within minutes of startup (not every startup, though) and lasts for some five minutes. Is this consistent with a DPF regeneration? Thought it would start after a much longer time, due to a need of warming up the DPF.

Since last post, I have checked the inter-cooler, and no oil there (only minor amounts in the hose, probably from the engine breather - can trace it back to its connection point). This was recommended by a tubo-service garage I have been in contact with to possibly replace the turbo (they are considerable less expensive than VW).

I have again checked the high-pressure turbo for play, since a mechanic said to check for movement in the axel's direction. There is about one millimeter play/movement in-out of the turbo. Up/down movement is still zero, so no slack there, and it looks/spins fine.
 
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Update 2:

Tried following up the VW repairshop's suspicion that the low pressure turbo is "disenganging" periodically. Hooked up the Mobilscan and drove with only manifold air pressure reading, and surely, at steady load in same gear, the pressure drops by almost a bar every 5-10 seconds (e.g. from about 2 down to 1 bar). The drop only lasts for a second or so. I hardly ever notice it in the performance of the engine, though. Noticed only a small loss of power once.

The manifold pressure fluctuations correspond fairly well with the MAF readings (air flow), i.e. air flow also drops when the manifold pressure drops.

I guess this is consistent with one of the turbos suddenly slowing down and then speeding up again. What may cause this?

Possibly a poor bearing which suddenly leads to increased friction (i.e. sticks) and then frees up again. Some of these pressure fluctuations are so quick that it seems strange that the turbine speed could fluctuate so quickly. If it is a poor bearing causing this, I guess it must get worse quickly and I will have my answer soon. Hope the VW dealer is right, that it is ok to keep driving (except for possibly clogging the DPF :eek:).